Spurs Rumours Archive January 25 2012

 

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25 Jan 2012 22:55:21
Is this crap,all the rumours that we have bid 40m for hazard??

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I'd have though so tbh, we don't pay that for anyone plus he'd want too much in wages anyway :/ I'd love to see him in Lillywhite but he'll end up at one of the biggest clubs

steed

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Considering our transfer record is £16m i'd "Hazard" a guess at.....YES!

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25 Jan 2012 21:55:32
Gio on his way to villareal,hope it works out for the lad

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Not a done deal; Levy wants more money!

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^^^^^As usual!!

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25 Jan 2012 20:19:28
TheJames, i heard about a fake twitter account going on about Damiao yesterday, its probably a load of bull mate.

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25 Jan 2012 19:47:04
So doubtful but a few rumours about Eden Hazard coming to spurs knocking around. Would be incredible wondering if there is any word

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We would never get hazard,all the big guns are after him,including citeh!

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What are we then a water pistol?

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With our wage structure and transfer fees we are willing to pay, we certainly are a water pistol!!

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...and Arsenal.

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Yes, you are a water pistol

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So we moan about our lack of activity in the window but we need top quality players who will only go to "the big guns". Vicious circle anyone?

I`ve seen enough Chris Armstrong/Ruel fox/Rebrov/Dozzel/Jenas/Rocha/Bentley style signings to last me a lifetime.

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25 Jan 2012 19:11:01
Sky were tweeting yesterday that spurs were preparing to hold talks with Leandro Damiao and Internacional.

I know the two clubs have had their difference in valuation of him in the past but it's not like their's been a big enough falling out to make the deal an absolute no-go.

I think it'd definitely be better to sign him in January than the summer, because if Adebayor goes back at the end of the season and no permanent deal is done, at least Damiao would have had 6/8 months to adapt to the Premier League.

There were also rumours doing the rounds on twitter the other day that Spurs had put in a loan bid for Krasic along with Liverpool.

Any truth in either of those you think?
(Or have they been submitted before? Sorry if they have)

THEJames

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I don't know if there is any truth about Damiao but I think the problem is that with the influx of money to south american football the clubs don't need to sell as much as they used to so they can hold onto their stars for longer and pay better wages. In previous years you couldplay hardball and they'd have to meet your valuation as they were desperate, now they can be more choosy about their valuations.

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25 Jan 2012 16:44:30
"Homes found for Gio and Pav"

"70% chance of Pav leaving. He can only go only if we secure a front man and we are talking top quality. Which means there is a 70% chance the sun will shine by Monday."

"It always shines in South America"

20/6/7

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Oracle/Thrush - you said you would never post again ! that also includes your alter ego !

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So where is Pav going??
I have a feeling we will pull of a Tevez deal. Any thoughts?

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Definitely not.

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Gio looks likely to be on his way to spain to join villarreal, i recon pav will prob stay till the summer unless levy has another striker in mind.
Also we have a game on deadline day so Mr levy will being doing the business.

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Direct quotes from my source who has strong links with the club. I pressed for a name but all I was given was "It always shines in South America" Obviously we can all speculate but I dont think my contact was on the wind up.

Now this is a rumour site not a "give me a hard evidence site", If you dont wish for me to share my information I dont need to give it out. I am a Spurs fan and enjoy sharing the few details I have. I`m sure one of the Ed`s can confirm that my Email at least is different from that of "The Oracle". So can we move away from this please.

20/6/7
{Ed008's Note - Confirmed!

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I have two aol email accounts and one yahoo account - sorry pal, this proves sweet fa. {Ed008's Note - IP Address is different.

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20/6/7 why so many "inverted commas"? An attempt to sound intelligent perhaps?
Mo

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What's an ip address ? {Ed002's Note - A unique number associated with a computing device. Some are fixed and some are not. From it we can determine where you live, in your case a semi-detached house in Swindon, and we can control your web can (I really think you should put that down and wash your hands immediately).}

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My house is indeed detached and not a semi ! (which leads me to report that hands are now washed.....! lol)

Can you get hold of the misses and tell her to put the kettle on.....

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Ronaldinho has shiny teeth

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Really pi***s me off when someone posts a thread or an opinion and people jump down their throats. If you have something better to offer then feel free, if not, shut up and read!!

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^^^^ Ahhh bless!

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It's not Oracle... no offence but Oracle would never have mixed up "their's" and "there's". Just saying....

Naz

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NAZ - he has not (there) is the correct word in that context.

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Thank you Ed`s

Mo the inverted commas were to show quotations. I didn`t claim intelligence just knowledge

Naz I would say that I would spend more time proof reading my posts but in all honesty I dont have the time or the need.

My friend cannot give out full information as it could implicate him. He can how ever give me snippets and allow me to draw my own conclusions. I am passing on all I know.

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Other in the know sites are now displaying much the same information. Gio and Pav out if we can get a striker in. Should be noted that 20/6/7's post was before the other sites.

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^^ Dont think you can pass wind.

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20/6/7 you are one of many people who post utter rubbish, but don't stop though as this site wouldn't be half as much fun!
Mo

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Or maybe he posts on every site ? anyway its all a load of twaddle !

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20/6/7,
apologies, i read someone posted "their" instead of "there" and thot it was your post. But looking back now, you did indeed use the correct spelling.
An ip adress can be faked and even using the "work" computer aposed to home computer can be a reason for different ip. BUT oracle has posted so why have another user if you are still going to post as original.

I think pav and gio will leave. And im really hoping dimiao signs!

naz

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Just to clear things up for those conspiracy theorists. I always finish my posts by signing off with The Oracle. I also always provide my email address for ED, and after previous sabotage attempts ED agreed to delete false posts.

You should all know me well enough by now, to have established that I don't write anonymous posts. I will always use my alias and stand by what I have written. Provided ED checks any imposter against the email I always submit, you can be assured that The Oracle is The Oracle!

The Oracle {Ed002's Note - I can confirm this is correct and the there is an email address provided each time The Oracle posts.}

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25 Jan 2012 11:04:39
hear rumours jose is leaving madrid in summer if redknapp leaves for england or jail surely jose would be no1 target whats ur taughts ed {Ed002's Note - I rather doubt it.}

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Mourhino dos seem to have a soft spot for Spurs but be careful what you wish for. Win things we might but our current style of football may go out the window. I could see this happening though.

A team on the cusp and an alleged £60 to spend. Its got to tantalise Jose

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You cannot doubt that he would be the number one target. He would be.

That is not to say that he would come - he probably wouldn't. But he will be top of Levy's list

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I'll match that £60 so he has £120 to spend, no problem.

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Honestly don't know how I'd feel about mourinho no doubt he'd do well but at what cost.
Slaven Bilic would be my choice croatia play very similar to spurs & his contracts up after euros, He tactically out thought hiddink in play-off, knows English football from time playing here & good friends with levy..
Others i could see it being Deschamps, Rodgers. Laudrup ( friend of levy)
Espur
{Ed008's Note - I completely forgot about Bilic. Good manager i agree with this.

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Bilic may also be a key factor in keeping modric at the club

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Disagree about mourinho's supposed negative tactics, I would say he adjusts them as necessary to the club; look how many goals rm have scored, three every game on average!

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And to signing Kovacic

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I have put £20 on Mourinho next Spurs manager, January last year at 25-1. So i'm really hoping he will.

But I do think Bilic Hiddink and Moyes would also be good alternatives

Naz

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25 Jan 2012 08:37:29
Levy doing a deal to make ade perm this window.

pav has signed a contract extension so may not be leaving for any less than £12-£15 mil. he didnt want to sign but there was a clause for us to do so if WE wanted - a transfer request may still be handed in once the ade deal is done.

this frees up a space for a loanee, enter carlos tevez. we will not be buying him, EVER. we will pay top wages for him for 5 months to get him out of mancini's hair and to secure 2nd or 3rd spot. The cocky b*****d doesnt find anyone a threat to the title, he just doesnt want tevez around others.

mentioned damaio before, we have 1st option due to link with inter. its the player who is unsure as to come and remember he signed a deal last year to extend his contract by CHOICE.

ed - have we re-enquired about valbuena? my sources are rubbish in spain!

L10 {Ed002's Note - Spurs do not have any "first option" on Damiao.}

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It would take at least a month of the 5 months to get Tevez match fit. A short term deal makes no sense. Why would we do City any favours.

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Spurs have an 'operational partnership' with Internacional which does allow us to match any bid for any of their players. This does not give us first option on any player, but allows us the opportunity to enter into negotiations should we match a bid. If however Inter offer the reported £30m for Leandro, there is no way we will match it.

I really can't see us making any signings of note in this window, unless a deal similar to the Van der Vaart robbery comes along. If for example Higuin became available for £10m due to a falling out with Mourinho then Levy would be interested, otherwise I think we will stick with the squad we have. {Ed002's Note - This makes no sense at all. If Spurs want to enter negotiations for any player a good start is to match any other bid - regardless of any "operational agreement" or not. Nonsense.}

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Ed - its common knowledge we have an affiliation with inter, its how we got sandro, so I don't know why you are so convinced there's nothing there {Ed002's Note - So how does this affiliation manifest itself? The latest idea is that it allows Spurs to match any existing bid, not to have any sort of option on the player, but to enter transfer negotiations. Somehow it has passed you by that this is how the existing transfer system works.}

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In the existing transfer system the club still has the right to refuse an equal bid surely? Not sure why they would want to, but I think that the point above was that they would have to accept a bid from spurs equal to a bid they have accepted from another club.

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Affilation is correct. it always has been ed. get on the phone, sort it out. the person up is correct, its how we got sandro. inter dont have to sell, but should the player want to leave or someone make a bid, we have option to match that or make 1st offer due to this.
if arsenal were to bid 10 mil for damaio today, we'd get 1st choice to talk to him should we choose to match this.

for the person above who has mentioned tevez, and doing city favours, it would be doing SPURS a favour having tevez around not city.

L10

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Dear All

The ED is infact correct and so are those who have cited an affiliation. The misunderstanding here comes from your interpretation of the agreement. Spurs have signed a formal affiliation contract with Internacional which includes the sale of talented players.

Affliations can be informal or formal and include a multitude of benefits and commitments. Let me summarise how this all works for Spurs:

Internacional gain by sharing the wider resouces of THFC, and Tottenham gain by gaining the first option on all academy players from the Brazilian outfit.

Sandro was not an academy player and neither is Damiao and therefore fall outside the academy commitments.

Internacional are still obliged to provide Spurs with the option to match rival club offers as the ED has detailed, and the player needs to also accept the terms of his future employment. Whilst technically Barcelona could offer £15m and pay Damiao £200,000 per week, in reality no large European club would find wages a challenge for a Brazilian league player as the salary will be considerably more than they are currently paid.

The agreement will allow Internacional to showcase their rising talent and gain the full resources of the wider THFC machine. This includes the sharing of coaching methodolgies, marketing, promotions, trade opportunities, legal, media, financial structuring and public relations. These benefits are a considerable cost to any club and would provide an irresistable benefit for a club like Internacional.

So yes we have a element of preferential treatment, and yes we are likely to get first choice of their talent pool. This does not mean that we can buy Damiao for £5m though, and any offer would need to reflect market demand and value.

Having said all of this expect Damiao to join in this window, watch this space the deal is almost finalised. Vinícius Prates agreed this is August as I already confirmed, and soon you will have your 'BIG SIGNING' you and I cant wait to see in a Lilywhite strip.

The Oracle

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I never said anythng about 5 mil. i said if a club was to bid 15 mil wed have option to match it. player could reject offer, we may not want to enter talks but we have 1st option. {Ed002's Note - There is no deal which allows Spurs to have first pick of first team players and the only agreement is to do with Internacional's kids - and Spurs have such agreements over youth players with several sides. If Spurs want Damiao it works as any other transfer - Spurs make an acceptable bid, have the player agree a move and personal terms and we are done. As we said, if another club bid then Spurs, or Arsenal or Cheslea or anyone else can match that bid and enter the negotiations.}

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ED why you felt you needed to repeat my post again is a mystery to me. It is pointless to try to educate people who lack the electrical brain impulses to understand it when the agreement has been explained in detail. When one uses a hypothetical £5m figure to explain a concept, and it is taken in a factual context.

Just as a side thought for those realising they were a little short in the brain capacity department. PLEASE beware the electricity in you brain is not the same as your Samsung 50' Plasma, so don't start licking electrical sockets just so you can understand what are simple concepts to the majority of us. I can however recommend you reviewing Omega 3 fish oil as a more suitable alternative.

Anyway, loyalty to our fans regardless of shortcomings is important. I will therefore add this additional guide for those fans who need a little more one to one tuition.

Spurs will sign Damiao for a competitive price but far less than some of the less respectable newspapers are quoting.

The Oracle {Ed001's Note - if all you are going to do is continue to lie and post complete fantasy, while insulting the intelligence of people who realise that you are full of brown stuff, you will just be blocked. You don't have any inside knowledge, that has been shown with your talk about Cahill. Stop pretending to have knowledge of a deal that has been done and is not at all how you are trying to represent it. Ed002 has explained the situation, just accepted you were wrong, again, and give it up.}

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ED 002 merely reiterated what I had explained in detail. He had expressed limited detail of the Operational Partnership so I kindly provided this for the viewers.

In respect of your comments ED 001, I find it somewhat hypocritical that I am not allowed some humour in my posts while you use such insulting behaviour yourself about me.

In reply to your post I totally refute that I do not have inside knowledge, and well done on getting lucky on the one deal that turned at the 11th hour in Cahill.

Do you honestly believe clubs advertise and selling starts without guaranteeing the purchase of replacements first?

ED are you suggesting that we would not agree to buy Damiao at club level before releasing say Dos Santos and Pavlyuchenko?

Do you honesly believe all these deal happen in the transfer window time frame, or do you believe these negotions and agreements are made all year round?

You see if you believe they all happen within a few days then I can understand your doubt and sceptisism. The fact that you do not relate to deals being agreed in principle months earlier leads me to believe that your knowledge of how the system works is not tuned to the real market.

Now I apologise to you if my tone is slightly confrontational, but it feels like you are throwing out the BAN threats and standards of unacceptable behaviour only to break the rules for yourself.

This site is a fans site and should be for rumours and fun. Clearly many people enjoy my posts, and I doubt many would argue that I was controversial. I suggest that you read what I wrote again in humour, and then read your response and ask yourself who was more insulting and unprofessional.

The Oracle {Ed002's Note - The agreement for the "talented players" is to do with the youth - and Spurs will have such agreements with several sides. Most of the complaints will come from your original assertion that all of these deals had been completed in advance of the transfer window. Cahill - no. The stadium - no. Damaio - no.}

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I can assure you that these deals were all not agreed in principle many months ago. Players can always change their mind fir crazy last minute changes. As I have stated before Spurs did exactly that with Gazza who was on his way to complete a deal he agreed with Sir Alex Fergusson. Man Utd supremo were so sure they had completed the signing that they allowed Fergy to go on holiday whilst the paperwork was being agreed. If I were Sir Alex I would imagine I would be getting the same insults and abuse over Gazza, but football is a funny old game of surprises.

Now is there a possibility PSG offer Damuao £300k a week and Internacional £50m? So there is always a danger to any deal but in reality transfers are agreed in principle many months earlier. That doesn't mean that speculative last minute buying doesn't happen like VDV, as players becoming available after the decks are shuffled.

So we have had Redknapp saying no deal in January, Damiao saying he is staying in Brazil with Internacional, and their chairman stating they are not selling. In addition the papers have said nothing for weeks as this rumour gas all but died. Suddenly a number of stories are emerging about him again and soon you will have you BIG signing that you all want.

I hope after Damiao signs that some of you including ED who has stated it seems very unlikely, will finally wake up and realise that there is no smoke without fire in my case.

Lastly for those with selective memory I think Adebayor, Parker, Damiao and Cahill isn't bad. If Cahill hadn't had a last minute change of heart you would be calling me a legend.

Remember the Olympic Stadium articles and the abuse when West Ham got the deal. I was single voice telling you it was a smoke screen, and every single press article said that the deal was complete and Spurs had lost. The usual crowd including
you ED destroyed me until it was reversed. Trust me when I tell you the Olympic Stadium will still be our home.

Damiao imminent and ED and co running for cover!

The Oracle {Ed001's Note - give it a rest you liar. Everyone had said all along the deal couldn't be completed due to the case brought by Leyton Orient. Stop trying to pretend in the know and talking complete and utter lies about transfer deals to sound like you are. The 'fire' in Damiao's case is all coming from you reading too many newspaper reports and masturbating yourself into a frenzy over the thought. You might get lucky and he joins, or you might make up more lies to cover your tracks, like you did over Gary Cahill, if he doesn't. But, either way, you clearly live in a fantasy world and have no more knowledge of transfer dealings than anyone else.}

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ED Just like the advice you gave me I would suggest that you think before you posting anymore. I have clearly rattled you and your responses are becoming more and more unprofessional and undermining your previous image.

You talk yourself as if you are the Oracle of knowledge and therefore we are very similar in that respect. The only two differences are:

1. I remain professional whilst you seem to have been questionable in that respect.

2. You sit on the fence on almost everything whilst I have conviction over what I say.

I dare you to post this and let your viewers decide. I am hated by everyone so it should be an easy way for you to get everyones backing!

The Oracle {Ed001's Note - Rattled? No, bored is the word you are looking for. I have never claimed to be any kind of Oracle or fountain of knowledge, unlike yourself, I regularly admit to not knowing when I don't know. All the editors are told not to make up stories, but to say they don't know if they don't. Shame I couldn't say the same about you, but then what would you have to say if you did that?}

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