Spurs Rumours Archive January 23 2013

23 Jan 2013 22:07:46
Just had confirmation that Levy will instead
sign Saldado.

The channella

I so hope your right, what's your source? Ed do you have any info on this thanks. {Ed001's Note - last I heard he was not interested in playing in England, at least that is what his reps told one enquiry from an English team.}

The channeller** type error

I tend not to believe information from people who are unable to correctly spell their name...

Hass

I'm starting to not believe anyone who starts their name with "The"

The Oracle
The Channella

NorthernSpur

The Chaneller is clearly the Oracle, it's not even well hidden. Same writing style and content. {Ed002's Note - Just to cut the crap, it is not The Oracle.}

I don't believe me either.

The Rabbit

Its Oracles best mate

Hey ed is that via IP address or email sign off that its def not oracle cause I was thinking the same?

Marc {Ed001's Note - both.}

23 Jan 2013 20:42:41
Levy wants Tevez on loan and has also enquired about Soldado recently.

Sold ado may be available now, as well ad mst of the Valencia team as they have been sighted over a £68million debt.
They could go into liquidation. There could be a fire sale.
Mr levy's dream scenario for a club selling to spurs!!

Tevez would be amazing but never going to happen. He wants to go back home.

Jon

23 Jan 2013 17:15:15
I hear that we are enquiring on a move for seydou doumbia. Any truth ed? Also Bony, Guarin and Kyriakos Papadopolous from Shalke. don't give up on Damiao, would help us step up to next level. {Ed001's Note - I am not sure, I will see what I can find out.}

23 Jan 2013 20:19:16
Yann M'Vila has signed for Rubin Kazan

23 Jan 2013 17:16:34
I've been reading reports that we have agreed a fee to sign holtby. It's believed to be in the region of £1.5m.
Dave

Holtby deal looks like its going to happen within the next 24 hours or so according to reports in Germany. Its also been mentioned on tv. Oracle i'm sure will confirm this as he knows so much (yeah right, Oracle is a gooner i'm sure of it).

It's looking ever more likely that we will tie up a deal.

TSGMO

I hope we can sign Mvila in the next fee days, and wait for the young lad to turn up in the summer

M'villa signed for Russian club this evening. Was on tv.

To late he's signed for Rubin Kazan.
Dave

Mvilla is gone to rubin kazin of as this evening been annouced

23 Jan 2013 14:51:23
Just to clear a few things up, Levy and AVB aren't playing their cards close to their chest, we aren't going to spend big this window especially not on the top drawer striker we desperately need. As for those saying Gary Hooper would be a smart signing, can you really imagine any other team with top 4 pretensions even being linked with him, Man Utd, Chavski and Citeh? Don't make me laugh and even Woolwich Wanderers and Newcastle aim higher than that despite being in even tighter financial situations than us. The problem is Levy, he can't accept that you occasionally have to spend big to achieve long-term success, I'm not talkinh Citeh/Chavski levels but with a 20m striker (and remember, Villa spent more than that on Bent) we would have broken down QPR and Man Utd and been much more likely to secure champs League.Until we get a chairman with a different approach we are never going to get the grade A striker all consistently successful teams have.

23 Jan 2013 15:41:28
... AVB wasn't watching hooper after all... just media crap!

Another unrealistic levy hater ! Levy / SUgar to be fair have hot tottenham running soundly and with long term visions, the youth/academy is coning on well fantastic potential and until we get a bigger stadium doubling out match day income we don't have 20-30 m for 1player
With the new stadium comes naming rights and I believe only them will we see big 1st team investment / potential sale of club

COYS
Essex spurs

Oh my goodness, historically forwards playing for celtic that have been bought on the cheap by English clubs have done well.Hooper is no different.He is a proven goal scorer and link up player not like some playing for spurs that take a touch then shoot(always).He would be a rave for spurs, playing with two wingers.

Villa spent more than 20m on Bent did they, well that worked well didn't it?!

Hooper is a midtable player. Why do you think no giant clubs are after him?

Spurs a giant club ?

Another unrealistic levy hater ! Levy / SUgar to be fair have hot tottenham running soundly and with long term visions
Those of us who actually went to Spurs when Sugar was in charge will tell you that far from 'running soundly' we flirted with relegation and the football was absolutely dire. As for Levys 'longterm vision' well it's bl**dy long term because we've been waiting nearly 5 years for an adequate replacement for Berbatov! I don't think pointing out that Hooper isn't the player we need is unrealistic just a statement of fact. Also wasn't saying we should buy Bent for 20m but was saying if a club like Villa can spend that sort of money then we should be able to as well, albeit on a better player. Levy hater? I don't think he's a bad man just a bad chairman. Does anyone disagree that having 1 (1 ffs) experienced striker at the club in midseason is a bit amateurish and doesn't help us get top 4?

Levy a bad chairman? Sorry mate but you are deluded. Levy deserves a lot of credit for the turnaround at WHL. He is exceptionally ambitious and just like everyone has made mistakes.
We now have a stable club-we are firmly in place for the new rules to be implemented on HG players and also runs a tight financial ship. Not only that he has secured some of the biggest sponsorships in World football-the Mansion deal was phenomenal. Having different sponsors for the cup games was visionary.

I appreciate you are annoyed we aren't p*ssing money on any available player and paying over the odds. The fact is we don't have a billionaire in charge and that is beneficial for the longevity of the club. We cannot adhere to the City and Chelsea policy of buy high and sell low as it will kill the club. I think someone like damiao could be good for us and in years to come but I don't think spending £25-30m on a relatively unproven player is the way forward. It was the same with Oscar in the summer-good potential no one knew if he would succeed in the EPL and we couldn't afford to throw £20 odd million and a take the risk.

The one thing you are correct on is that it is a long term plan. Need to accept that we can't be in the money throwing group-and to be fair to Levy and Enic they have backed every manager with funds. defoe, crouch, bent, bentley, berba, modric, dembele, pavlychenko, palacios, lloris have all been signed for close to £10m or more.

Don't mind you having your opinion but can't say we haven't spent money over the years.

The Monocle

24 Jan 2013 23:25:22
To all the Levy groupies a few questions.

1. Is having 1 proper striker an acceptable situation for a team chasing a CL place?

2. Berbatov was sold for £30m years ago and we've had money for Crouch and Pav since, why hasn't some of it been reinvested in a top drawer striker?

3. Last season we finished 4th but scored far fewer goals than all other top 5 clubs, why wasn't this addressed?

4. Levy a good chairman? He undermined Jol who had got us two top 5 finishes and replaced him with a Spanish bloke who couldn't speak English and had no intention of learning it, result= near relegation, good chairmanship?

I don't want to waste money on unrealistic players but I do think given the profit we've made on transfer dealings we could spend £15-20 million on a decent striker as we are sorely lacking firepower now. As for being financially well run, if that's what gets you going I suggest you look on the FT website for your kicks.

I will take it upon myself to answer the questions you have posed:

1. No it is not acceptable but far better than panic buying, spending 10-15m on a player we don't need that isn't good enough and will have to be replaced in the not too distant future. There is no point buying a player that isn't the right fit for the club and won't perform the role required. We are light in the striker department I won't deny that.

2. I would again refer to point 1 and argue the same. There has however been substancial reinvestment in the club since those sales. Along with a few new bumper contracts and FYI signing on fees come from the same pot. Adebayor was also likely to have recived a large sum to compensate for the shortfall in wages.

3. I don't think it is relevant on the amount of goals scored as if we were to win 30 of our 38 PL games 1-0 that would suffice in securing top 4 and I would rather consistent results than the occasional demolision of a team. 5 x 1-0 victories is better than 1 x 5-0 victory so not really sure what the purpose of this argument is.

4. I am of the belief that Jol had taken us as far as he could, I did like the man and I still do but football is a ruthless game and if you want to progress then there is no room for sentiment. Ramos at the time was widely tipped as one of the best emerging managers in the game at that time and it was a coup that we were able to secure him. Ramos also guided us to our first trophy since 2001 and pretty much got us to the final the following year. If you were well informed you would be aware that the players had revolted as they were not keen on the fitness, diet and training regime implemented on them. In the same way AVB was a victim of player power during his time at Chelsea.

I am pleased to hear you don't want to waste money but I will again refer you to point 1 & 2 and I will also add that Adebayor was the best player we were able to secure in that position.

Again you demonstrate a severe lack of knowledge when it comes to running a football club. Just like any business it cost money to run, the training ground development, the stadium development, wages, transfers, maintenance etc.

Finally thank you for the tip I have been on the FT website very good reading. For the record this is not Football Manager; fortunately we have astute people in charge of the club as opposed to people that share your views as we would have been run into the ground a few decades ago. As a club we are now in a strong position with minimal debt in comparisson to other clubs with a state of the art training facility soon to be coupled with a state of the art stadium. A great manager who will hopefully be at the healm for a long while to give us the stability we need. Or would you rather revert back to chop shop Arry and Irvine Scholar?

We must not be spoilt as fans and appreciate that 10 years ago the prospect of CL was dim. Looking forward it appears with the right moves we can establish ourselves as a permenant fixture in the top 4 for a few years to come.

Well, thanks for answering politely (if a little pompously and patronisingly) However, you do make a few incorrect assumptions and assertions especially as regards points 1 and 2. You agree that having 1 striker is a ridiculous position to be in but review to criticize Levy about it and then say we shouldn't spend any money to rectify the situation, which seems odd.
You also big up Ramos and Levy for getting him but the fact is that he never bothered to learn English, took us to our worst ever start to a season and was sacked in less than a year surely the buck for this stops with Levy but again for you he is above criticism. You also make 1 fair point, Ramos got us a trophy (albeit with Jols squad) but to say he basically got us to next years final is laughable, he was sacked in October and the final was in March! I also don't remember calling for the return of HR or Scholar so am not sure where you got that from. I also disagree that Adebayor was the absolute best striker we could have got last Summer, we had a huge fee in from Modric and even allowing for the fee we paid for Dembele we still could have spent 15m or so on a decent striker and banked a few quid to keep the beancounters like you happy!

23 Jan 2013 08:52:34
I like how when I mentioned Gary Hooper a couple weeks ago it got written off as a stupid move and that he's not good enough, now that we are generally showing an interest apparently he'll be a good signing. MAKE YOUR MINDS UP

I don't want him. hardly world class striker that will take us to the next level.

I can't beleive Damiao isn't signed for £20m. All the monerry we have saved not spending. come on Levy. If we had him we would of thrashed Man Utd

Jon

Hooper would just be a new Raziak!!

It isn't that we want him what we are saying if no one else is coming in he MAY be able to do a job but I don't think, at the beginning if the window when we envisaged a striker coming in it was him (only you did) and please please sign your name and we would know it was you who wanted him

cheers

derbyshire dave

If AVB was there I'd say he was there look to at their midfielder Wanyama, Hooper is not at the standard of a Top 4 team. I still have an inkling we will sign a forward and I think it will be Negredo of Seville. They're in financial trouble and DL will do a deal on the 31st to ensure he pays as little as possible. This is not a rumour just my own thoughts. Do any of my fellow people have any thoughts or do any of the Ed's have nay thoughts?

Stuart {Ed001's Note - Spurs are still talking to Sevilla, it does seem Negredo is the number one target for the striker position. The question I would ask though, is what would that mean for Adebayor? They are very similar players, if Negredo can be completed, I can't see Adebayor and him playing as a pair. Would it mean he leaves in the summer?}

Well Ed.. you made my day saying we still in for Negredo.. and Hooper doesn't really seem that bad.. he'd be a decent or great second choice striker in a line striker system!

The trouble is we want champs league and Levy thinks we can get it by shopping in pound land! Bargains like Michu are few and far between! We lost £4.3mill last year by not qualifying ( yes chelsea were lucky but if we had invested properly in the jan window we wouldn't of thrown away 10 points to the gooners an qualified instead of them). Other than the lack of striking options I think the team is looking strong. Negredo please mr Levy
Wycombe spur.

Thanks Ed001 for your reply and for the optimisim you have given us Spurs fans that we are still in talks with Negredo! As for Adebayor, I like the player he does do a lot for the team although scoring record has been poor this season, but feel injury and lack of fitness warrant this. Where it leaves him who knows, but we need someone to hold the ball up and I guess if Negredo is the man then so be it and he knows how to score! As for Damaio I gave up on that player a year ago

Negredo is a different player than Ade, he likes to get in the box and be a threat and he is pretty good in the air too. He can play as a lone striker and in a pairing. He'd be a great addition imo

We won't be able to get rid of Ade as City won't subsidize his wages if we move him on. He isn't taking a paycut to play elsewhere - he's proved that with City. We're going to keep him until 2014 when his contract is done.