Spurs Rumours Archive July 10 2012
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10 Jul 2012 23:44:55
Levy wants 16m for Vdv and this is why Schalke have pulled out.
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10/11 million and we would sell
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We don't want to sell VDV, it's all speculation in the press to try to unsettle us.
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Doubt van der vaart wants to move. Just speculation hes been showing off in spurs latest kit
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Van der vaart wants a move back to germany because his wife works there and wants him in germany, he will be leavin 100%
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Schalke pulled out and I'm not sure hamburg are realistic, they are only midtable in the bundesliga. Also him in all the kit promos means I reckon he's staying
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I doubt hamburg could afford our asking price,they are not in a great financial position.
b/s
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10 Jul 2012 21:58:10
Defoe to reading.
Shorty
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So you're working on the assumption we already have deals lined up for 4 senior strikers and AVB definitely didn't say he was staying....?
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Tottenham are trying to sign a striker not sell one . Defoe be an important player next year
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There could be truth in this rumour and its pretty common knowledge that reading are very interested with their new investors looking for a couple of big signings.
defoe and ade dont seem to gel together,so defoe going wouldnt surprise me
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Defoe and ade had a great partnership, unfortunately for him so did ade and vdv, and rafas just better than defoe. Also, if we started with defoe and ade, it would be in a 442 formation, which is something I'd only risk in the last 20 minutes of a game, as opposed to him starting
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Ahem... Defoe is in talks with reading today ( 12th)
shorty
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09 Jul 2012 22:19:37
Ed008, what do you think of Lloris? I think he is average. {Ed008's Note - I think he's a good goalkeeper is certainly better than the GK's at Spurs he'll get better if signed.
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Rather stick with friedel that was on a free and didn't make too many mistakes last season and buy a young up and coming keeper and spend the extra 13+ million saved by not buying lloris who most fans think is just "ok" on a much better quality striker which is a top priority this season surely
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Young Goalkeeper, would Lloris not be one at 25, GK peak at like 35
sween
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I think Rui Patricio would be better than Hugo Lloris. He looked quality at the Euro's and we could get him on the cheap because he plays for sporting lisbon. You would think this martins bloke would be interested (AVB right hand man).
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Lloris is not just OK, there is not doubting he is a quality keeper, but the main priority for Spurs has to be a top class striker to help them towards top 4, and that 13m would be better used for that.
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We should better sign ter stegen german u21 gorlie who plays for gladbach :)
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Lloris is a good keeper and would provide a solid option, but I agree with ED that Spurs will improve him. The future star is Jack Butland who has everything in the talent locker and we need to snap him up.
Freidel is a superb option to have next season or even the one after, and Gomes is still an enigma. I would have flogged him off for £5m but it seems there are noises about AVB keeping him and Lloris and Butland and ditching Cudicini, Freidel and Alnwick. The whole thing sounds very strange as Freidel has been consistently superb for years.
Surely Freidel, Vorm & Butland are better options for the next year. Maybe AVB will prove us all wrong and if Lloris does sign and improve as ED indicated, then the healthily competition with a young rising talent might just bring about the transformation for Gomes.
Interesting albeit very hard to call what AVB is really thing.
The Oracle
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Alnwick has ALREADY gone!
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^^^^ So much for in the know!
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AVB was talking up button today so maybe he could be ready for the step up. Also if we can't get butland, we should defo try and poach birminghams goalkeeping coach, look what he did with Hart, Foster and now Butland
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Lloris will not sign for Tottenham! AVB does not want him.
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10 Jul 2012 16:20:06
We have been trying for 3 years to get damiao and everytime hes turned us down, shouldnt we just get the message that he doesnt want to play for us! as for oscar its never gonna happen! lets just have a bit of realismm to these posts!,Real are never gonna give us Higuain as part of the modders deal, only if we give then cash and modric! Addy yes thats a deal we can do, and loris will do nicely, moutinho think we are all dreaming with that one (same as the kuwaiti takeover) recon piennar will cover modders spot certainly the likes of Ganso,oscar,hulk are never gonna happen. please folks lets just keep it real! coys!
dave.
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You must be a gooner! Optimism FFS, It's fans like you that make me right p***ed off. If you don't want to imagine any big signings go support a small team!!
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Are you serious??
The most negative spurs support I've had the miss fortune to read comments from.
Peanut to take modric's place, they firstly don't play the same position secondly he's not in the same league as modric.
Honestly get real, what a crap comment to post.
I understand people are entitled to a opinion but that's taking the piss.
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Fack Off Gooner!
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If he was a real Spurs supporter , then he would have been born optimistic . Either a gooner or scouse !!
Davo
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Please all you real spurs fans don't get to carried away with all thers players we might be going to sign. Ada will join and we will try to get one more forward in too + a keeper if the right one comes along and that will be it unless modric goes and then we will look for a replacement.
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Terrible comment Steven P. in place of modders has this guy ever seen these same two players play? We will sign big players b4 season starts and won't miss luka as much as people think COYS
B man
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We will get Damiao and Oscar.
In Oracle and Levy we trust.
The Rabbit
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Can't remember seeing Friedel cost us many goals last season, 1? 2?
Got another season in him and Cudicini had a couple of stormers as well in odd games in-between so yes, we need to think ahead but i think two strikers plus a Modric replacement are definitely the priority. Moutinho is realistic if Modders goes, Ade - despite all the negative stuff i read, i can't believe it is the common opinion that he's not one we want signed? I saw most games last year at WHL or away ones on tv and can't believe anybody would turn down another 17(should have been 20) goals plus assists!?! And he allows us to play a VDV, Sig or whoever just behind because of his work rate.
£5-8mill plus £100-120k per wk wages, come on, there is nobody else out there who is proven who we can get for equivalent total deal price!?!?!
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Well unless somebodys gonna be elevated into the first team squad from the kids,then we need 2 additional strikers,and thats only if defoe stays and ade is signed.
we need cover for lennon,as was plainly demonstrated last season when lennon was injured.
as decent as brad is,i still think we need a top class keeper.
when/if modric goes,we will also need a creative midfielder.
i still feel theres more "stars" to leave yet,be it vdv or defoe.
theres definitely something occuring at the lane,wages are rising which suggests something has happened behind the scenes.
b/s
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If the original post wants to be this negative I suggest he goes and supports Arsenal. The comment regarding Damiao is total opinion and WRONG. Damiao didn't turn us down, he loyally didn't want us to steal him for nothing which shows his class and honesty. Spurs originally spotted him thanks to our permanent fixture of scouting their academy. We tried to get him for £2.5m at first which demonstrates how early we had noticed his talent. Then another attempt at £5.4m and a further one at £11.2m. The truth is Spurs had Crouch, Keane, Defoe, Pavlyuchenko not to mention the youth talent. Damiao wanted first team assurance and a fair settlement to honour his former club. Let's not slate the likes of Sol Campbell and then blame Damiao for doing the exact opposite.
Spurs have a superb partnership with Internaccional and this deal will happen soon. All this turning down incineration is total fiction. AVB does have some targets and keeping Defoe and getting Adebayor on the permanent books is his priority. Damiao remains his key new signing and will join Adebayor and Defoe as our attacking options. Sure if Levy can pull off a Higuain + £20m for Modders or a VDV type coup from any one of the 33 strikers who have been scouted, then we could get a nice bonus on top.
As I states many weeks ago we will get AVB, Vertonghen, Sigurdsson Moutinho. Damiao this window. then I added the Olympic Stadium which will come in the future contrary to all the nonsense the press wrote.
We still await the Modric outcome but if he goes for £35m+ then the door open again for even more signings. It is clear AVB wants future talent hence his expressed interest in Sturridge, Lewandowski, Oscar and others.
One thing is certain Spurs are a big club, and we potentially have the next generation Mourinho in the hot seat. We have loads of money and are forward thinking unlike many of the other clubs. The financial fair play will see youth talent like Butland and Sturridge soar, and one need only look at Porto to see how important youth development is to AVB.
The future looks fantastic and not the doom and gloom nonsense the original post alluded towards.
Come on you Spurs
The Oracles
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We have broken the wage structure which means players like oscar hulk etc come to spurs, you talk about keepin posts real then i suggest you go back to your own clubs webpage
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THIRD Â TIME OF ASKING.......
To Oracle.
Spurs will build 3/4 of our new stadium whilst we still play home games at the lane. We will then move into a 3/4 finished stadium (which will already have a higher capacity than WHL even though only part built) while the lane is demolished before finishing the building of the "higest bidder stadium" during the following off season.Â
The diagrams and plans where posted on the official Spurs site along time ago that could be seen by all. It was under the future plans section covering both the new training ground AND the stadium.
Bear in mind that -
1) We own all the land.
2) We have spent millions of pounds demolishing and making safe.
3) We've done all the plans.
4) We have secured funding from council.
5) We have nearly secured funding from an as yet unnamed middle eastern source to help fund the build.
6) We didn't even enter a bid for the Olympic Stadium in the properly run second bidding process. Leyton Orient and The Spammers where the only football clubs that did bid (you cannot win he lottery if you don't buy a ticket).
7) Daniel Levy has openly said that if we couldnt demolish and rebuild without a running track, then we wouldnt be interested - the track has to remain.
Etc Etc Etc.Â
Considering all the points that I have AGAIN politely raised (in particular number 6), would you please explain why it is you keep persisting with your Olympic Stadium claim. Why keep putting your head on the block over and over again on something that is so obviously NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
You are always very vocal and quick to jump on the prediction band wagon (after the daily star has printed something obviously) but his is now the THIRD time that I have posted these same questions to you and so far you have refused to answer them. If you haven't noticed by now, now matter how much you bury your head in the sand - I'm not going away. The readers also have long memories. Some how I think that you wont answer at all, other than your usual claims of being picked on of course. Why not take his opportunity to prove me wrong......
Still waiting.
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Your knowledge seems patchy albeit full of information.
1. Spurs own the stadium and the training facilities behind as well as a considerable block of commercial property on White Hart Lane. This is correct but I don't see any relevance in this point. We had the land and commercial property before the new stadium plans, and the purchases were all connected to expansion of the merchandising and ticket sales facilities.
2. You talk about millions of pounds demolishing and making safe. Well I walk past the ground weekly and I see no evidence of this mega demolition you talk about. In addition perhaps you will like to show me where on the balance sheet of the latest report and accounts this multi million pound invisible demolition is ?
3. Yes we have done all the plans for both WHL and the Olympic stadium. Intact if you really need to know there are also plans for Lea Valley and a shared Wembley stadium if you want to elaborate this point.
4. Should WHL option go ahead then we have agreed funding from the council. You seem to miss the fact that this funding comes with a massive social housing commitment to Spurs which is almost counter productive. Only a foolish chairman would have all his eggs in one basket, but do not confuse contingency planning with green light business proposals. I suggest you read the council offering in detail and you will soon establish that the financial terms are not that attractive for THFC Plc.
5. You talk of funding from a so called 'unknown' middle easy source. There is no secret that the stadium rights will be sold to the highest bidder. This would apply to WHL or the Olympic stadium in the same way.
6. Spurs have registered their bid for the Olympic stadium along with Leyton Orient, West Ham, Essex Cricket and Formula One racing. I am not sure what you are reading but I can assure you once the formal proceedings start Spurs will be in pole position.
7. Again you make a statement with a fraction of the facts. Sure Levy wants the track removed, but one of our option included a retractable seating facility. Whilst a running track remains a necessity today, financial flavour can soon change things in the future.
In summary you have made some press like assumptions with half the facts. I totally understand why you would support your views, but the clubs future and expectations beyond a 55000 stadium. So ask yourself this question; why would we spend £400m on something that is going to be too small in 4 years. The Olympic stadium plans could cater for a much larger stadium which would support the clubs future plans far more suitably.
I know you are a doubter, and I know the press have made many uninformed statements, but the future of AVB , Vertonghen, Sigurdsson, Moutinho, Damiao along with the resigning of Adebayor and the move to the Olympic stadium will soon all come true. I accept I have been calling this for many months, but you will soon learn the reality.
The Oracle.
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10 Jul 2012 15:02:16
Gomes looks set to get the no1 shirt back for the start of the new season, friedel could be heading to bolton for £500.000..Modric told he's staying for another season.
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What makes you think that they will give a 3rd choise goalkeeper the no1 shirt when we probably have out biggest season for a long time and it's common knowledge we are in the market for a new keeper.
Can't believe I wasted my time responding to this
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3rd choice under the old regime!! friedel is 41,cudicini is 37!..gomes is 31, and will be given a chance to prove his £7.8m fee..out with the old as they say, why i bothered explaining this i don't know?
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Because you have no fact to support you silly post.
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10 Jul 2012 12:54:38
Anyone know if the leaked kit on the net is the actual shirt for next season? Its probably the worst kit ive seen since that pony nonsense.....
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Im not too sure on the home kit but the Away kit is a beauty
Spurs Lad
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It looks like the last few kits how can it be awful ? Granted its plain but it's nice and a safe first kit from UA
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I think the home kit looks decent
And completly agree the away outfit looks awesome definitely favourite of the two
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I agree with the away kit but that pic of the home shirt makes it look like a rugby shirt....really don't see the point of the back design when the numbers are printed. If the "leaked" pics are right then at least we'll be in all white, can't remembr the last time that happened
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I just love the detailed cockeral motif on the back of the home shirt - very nice.
Other than that, a rather safe 1st outing for under armer.
I wonder what the 3rd kit will be like??
Flippit.
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White shorts on white shirt looks weird...
better change home kit shorts to away shorts
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10 Jul 2012 09:57:18
Chelsea have not beaten us to the signature of Oscar, we have a good connect with his club and therefore we get 1st pick. Also, all this has come from is the Daily Fail, no source which is reliable!
Spurs Lad
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We do not get first pick! The agreement only means that if someone puts in an offer they have to give us the option of matching it!
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I doubt we are even after oscar anyway. We are been linked with loads of players , we will probs sign adebayor if he takes a wage cut as man city dont want him and best to get him now before other clubs come in for him and theres moutinho we are after too. Dont think any brazilians be coming 2 tottenham this transfer window
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Good connection with the club means nothing, who would Oscar rather play for? Use brain please
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And the end of the day it's down to the player, and he may well want CL football.
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Inter president says no offers made..could the daily fail be lying?? probably. We need to get in quick though.
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We dont get first pick as such we have first refusal as long as we meet the clubs asking price. the question is will we match any offer chelsea makes and Will the player choose to join us. can't see us spending £25 million on a midfielder when 2 new strikers have to be our priority.
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We only have first refusal on academy products, i.e.not oscar.
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10 Jul 2012 16:52:57
Apparently no offers have been made for any Internacional players
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We only get the right to make a counter offer for players from the Inter academy, Oscar did not come through the academy he was signed from another team, so I don't believe the agreement covers him.
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The only thing I believe in a newspaper is the date.....
tone the bone
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The suggestion that someone uses their brain is faintly offensive. It's also misleading - visceral reactions tend to be be more reliable.
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Ive waited long enough to see if anyone else will spot the glaring error in these posts, but as no one has mentioned it - The agreement only covers players that have come through their academy. OSCAR DID NOT COME THROUGH THEIR ACADAMY, THEY BOUGHT HIM. Therefor the agreement does not apply.
Flippit
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Do We need oscar.?. Could be a big gamble. If modric is going to leave then sahin will come are way,and it looks preety certain moutinho is coming are way very soon. how many mids do we need.?
big man
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Sahin has already said no thank you and it's 'our way' not 'are way'
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Flippit is spot on with his comments regarding academy players. Sure we have a great agreement with reciprocal arrangement which provide corporate pressure, but be under no false illusion we can just Gazump Chelsea at the 11th hour.
Oscar however is a legitimate target if Modric goes but so is Affellay and Ganso. I am sure we have a good proposition for any of them but would not be able to compete with the Russian mafia if it came down to price.
The Oracle
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10 Jul 2012 10:15:02
Alan Smith has joined MK DONS
aak
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Our player isn't named alan smith ... The one they are on about is the ex man u / newastle and Leeds ??
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10 Jul 2012 10:13:32
Norris bid accepted from Sheff Weds.
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10 Jul 2012 10:08:44
Alan Smith has signed for MK Dons.......
Thank you God.
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Whereas Adam smith, who actually plays for spurs, remains at the club
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09 Jul 2012 23:45:15
The Daily Fail reports that Chelsea have beaten us to the signature of Oscar of Internacional. Fee is around £25 million. Bet the fail's sports staff were laughing it up when the news came in. So much for our strategic partnership with Inter. Leandro is next to turn blue I suppose. Can't wait for the day Chavski get their comeuppance. The anti-spurs editorial from the English press continues.
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Typical as soon as we go for a bit of class someone else grabs em.
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This has not been confirmed by internacionale in fact they have said no approach has been made. His agent has said the approach has been made (hmmm wonder why) if he goes to chavski they will simply be ruining another good young potential by loaning him to lower levels or by killing confidence by putting him on the bench all the time
get in there daniel as the club have said " we always sell one or two players in every window"
derbyshire dave
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I've given up reading any newspapers, because I'm fed up with the bias towards Arsenal/Chelsea and the Mancs.
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Apparently our deal with inter is only for academy products. I might be wrong but I think Oscar came through at sao paulo
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09 Jul 2012 23:17:40
According to the daily fail Chelsea have signed Oscar for25m, which was 7m more than we offered, nevermind maybe this signals that we will really get moutinio.
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