Spurs Banter Archive July 17 2014

 

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17 Jul 2014 22:53:48
Sandro will be announced at Napoli imminently. Maybe Pochetino does like player who have names starting with 'S'. Sigurdsson & Sandro gone, will Soldado make it a triple SSS clear out.

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18 Jul 2014 01:16:09
PURE RUBBISH!

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{Ed008's Note - Had to edit the word..

Thought Siggy declined to move, wanted to stay and fight for his place?

Sandro won't surprise me, lost his way last season either injuries or TS, probably a good decision for him to move on.

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18 Jul 2014 16:07:26
Ed008, ok no worries sorry about that, it was the first word that came to mind!

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19 Jul 2014 07:18:08
It was my fault ED so I apologise for the post. I was actually going to add SSS out and MMM in Messi, Mascherano & Maicon but it would have been too obvious.

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17 Jul 2014 20:26:46
why are we selling siggurdson he is a good squad player there are worse players we could get rid of before him

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Because no one wants the other players that are worse! :-) but I am surprised at the reported 7.5m accepted! :( he is worth a bit more than that surely! DL must be on leave lol

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Is all about if other clubs want any of our other players or they don't want to pay some ludicrous price Mr Levy wants for them.

He's an average player in all honesty.

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Would have Sigg over Lewis Holtby and Chadli. Siggs has got importantant goals in him. Holtby is all huff and puff and Chadli where do you start.

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Trouble with Siggy, where does he play! Seems to be a brilliant player then never did it consistently! What's up with our club, good players join, then go down rather than up! Perhaps that is what we should worry about rather than transfers!

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17 Jul 2014 20:22:55
Bobbybox to say Daniel Levy should be applauded is crazy. We know this devil inside out. He will sell your best players and bring in inferior cheaper replacements, any manager that threatens to take us to the next level, or stands up to him will be sacked, Spurs will always have a 34 game season, the manager will not get a say on incoming players, the club will have lots of deadwood in the squad years past their sell by date because Levy wants three times their value and other clubs won't pay. These points out weigh a club of Tottenhams size being well run financialy. If and when the new stadium is built I think Levy and his ENIC friends will be long gone, having made a big profit on the club. When Rose, Dawson, Townsend and Kane are in the starting eleven at Upton Park on August 18th will we be applauding saint Levy then?

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18 Jul 2014 11:04:07
Lucas
As a happy gooner I think Levy is doing a great job at the lane.
I toke some wasting the bale money,but he did it.
Its going to be a very good season this year.
Where do you see yourselfs,top 4
Or bottom 4
Cheers
A Very Happy Gooner
PS
your roumer page is full of you players leaving

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17 Jul 2014 18:14:10
For all those moaning about Mr Levy remember better the devil you know because remember hicks and gillet , at scouse land, Mr levy has been fighting on all fronts team, stadium, players, running club, hell of a lot to organise and keep steering along, his stewardship needs applauding despite his faults and when were sat in our 60,000 seater stadium watching the top stars play there, we will have Mr Levy and his vision to thank . Its a rollercoaster ride been a spurs fan but that's the way it is and always will be . Like no transfers or no noise then all hell breaks loose which it will C.O.Y.S. and fair play and a hand for saint levy .

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Trouble is those top stars will be playing for the other teams!

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17 Jul 2014 17:23:02
Lets be clear Daniel Levy is a business man, not a football man. His business plan for the club is that of a used car salesman, buy low sell high. Any player that a profit can be made from will be sold reguardless of their importance to the team. Years ago it looked good with big profits made on Carrick and Berbatov, but now its just bad business. The sales of Luka and GB were made far to early and far to cheap. For a shrood businessman, Levy got those two sales wrong, both must be worth double the price they were sold at. The transfer policy has always been a joke, every year we have a 34 game season due waiting until the last hours of august to do our business. I heard a stat that Tottenhams net transfer spend over the last five seasons is 20mil. Stokes net transfer spend over the same time period is 90mil. We have players like Rose, Dawson, Townsend and Kane and that's the net spend, says it all.

Daniel Levys hiring of managers has been terrible, one good appointment in eleven attempts. When he did get it right he failed to back Harry financialy when we were on the brink of establishing ourselves in the top four or even a title challenge. Levys decesions not to back Harry and then employ AVB were terrible mistakes, and everyone knew that when they were being made. Now the gap between us and Arsenal is huge again, with them buying Sanchez and possibly others of that ilk to follow. We had the chance to knock Arsenal out of the top four over the last three seasons but now that chance has gone thanks to Levy. His obsession with a director of football is as bad as Sherwoods obsession with promoting average youth players. An FD has failed three times in Levys tenure, and yet after these failures he brings in Baldini and gives him carte blanche with the Bale money.

Levy should have resigned ten times over for some of his descison making. If you were to describe Levys running of the club in a nutshell, look at the attempted purchase of Leandro Damiao or the Lewis Holtby deal, held up for two weeks whilst Levy haggled over 50k. Again it says it all.

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Lucas, interesting post I agree with a few comments mate with regards to Harry as I've said on here before we was knocking on the door furthermore we could have stayed a top four team with a few good signings.

However I disagree with the wrong doing on the Bale / Modric sales, Bale went for a world record fee how can anyone say that bad business is beyond me. In all fairness every fan thought we was going to be in the mix last season with all the new signings me included but this didn't happen due to the way AVB set up. Who knows with the right manager and the right formation we may see the best out of them this season as we cannot keep sacking managers, but then again how long do you leave it? I understand what your saying about all the sackings but what would we all be saying if mopo is in the bottom 3 come Christmas. Thoughts .

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I'm not sure you can blame last season all at the door of AVB. None of the new signings performed under AVB for whatever reason . In fact the majority still haven't shown us they were worth the money paid for them. Add to that the unrest in the dressing room and at the end between AVB and Levy it's hard to see how anything can be concluded from last season other that it was wasted.

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Lucas perfectly written.
The bale sale not good business in my eyes as once they got payed they paid over the odds on players saldado and Lamella for 2.
No good making a sale if you can't invest it back properly so no not good buisness
Also qualification for cl football=
Minimum 30 mil+ from all angles.
Times that by 3 where we have come close over the last few year and that is bales money

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Just think that two irreplaceable world class players were sold to early. Imagine where we would be with those two over the past couple of seasons. It was a world record fee for Bale, but in time at his age and with his ability 86mil will seem cheap. Lukas value must be 60mil now. Last season Saurez was valued around 40mil, Liverpool milked him for another season finished 2nd and then sold him for 75mil. AVB was part of a three man problem at the club, unfortunately two of those men are still there. I think with MoPo seven out, four in and he will do a good job, and the football should be entertaining.

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Lucas – You have to factor in that both of these players didn’t want to play for Spurs, Both their heads we’re turned by arguably the biggest club in the world.
Once this happens there is NO turning back. The club have to make a decision
Also Soldado & Lamella looked great prospects when we acquired their services I know they haven’t performed yet.
As for Suarez where have you got 40Million from – I recall Arsenal bidding 50 Million + £1 & Liverpool laughed, If he hadn’t took a bite at the world cup he would have gone for what Bale went for.

Mr G. Your saying we paid over the odds for these players this was the going rate this was also re- invested into the club. The club didn’t take the money & say we’re not going to invest it did they.

Yellow Card – I’m not saying all the blame was down to AVB the players also have to be accountable, but at the end of the day the buck stops with the manager, he picks the team, he left Ade out & look what he produced when he come back into the team only for a few games I might add - so yes this would fall at the door of the manager, AVB used to over complicate the game a million & 1 spreadsheets / formations drawings he had for 11 players on the pitch. do me a favor, we should have recognized his mistakes at Chelsea… So I do blame that one on Levy.

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17 Jul 2014 15:34:23
i think we will not be buying anyone for the next 3 years as levy got the new stadium to build look at arsenal they didn't spend any money when building the new library and now they are splashing the cash on top players as they got a extra 30 000 seats filled everyweek

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17 Jul 2014 14:21:22
Can someone anyone even an Ed tell me what in heavens name is going on? Adebayor likely to be out for some while with a debilitating illness that can come back at any time. I Just read chriches and Sandro out of pre season, Loris and the Belgians not on the tour. Paulinho likely depressed and not in training with squad.No sign whatsoever that we are going to sign anyone. Two players we want to off load who won't go. So basically our pre season is descending rapidly into melt down AGAIN. What is point in taking half a squad on tour to the USA, with our third choice keeper supposedly in the frame to start. Is it just me? on is it not time to ask who exactly in managing this mess, it might all be bad luck and circumstance but what is anyone doing about it? Anyone out there got any answers because this is ruining my summer.

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17 Jul 2014 16:01:39
Supporting spurs makes you ill!

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Chris, its vegetate time, either that or sit and watch your head explode! All the fun of supporting Spurs!

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16 Jul 2014 16:36:03
"Note - Please don't. It is clear you don't understand what provisions have been made and the cap that continues to be discussed"

Ed002:

I don't believe you wrote this. Since when was it your job to stifle comment and discussion?

Of course I know that fears have been expressed about the possibility of sponsorship practices that could compromise the integrity of football and of course I know that the deals done at City are under scrutiny to see whether the valuations are reasonable or are merely a hidden subsidy to the club. However, this is not central to the general issue I raised.

Clearly, Addidas is a respectable sponsor and undoubtedly based its offer to United on sound commercial grounds. My worry is that there will only ever be a relative handful of football 'brands' that are capable of attracting sponsorship on that scale and this will pose a real problem for all the clubs that want to compete with them. If caps on genuine sponsorship are also under discussion that is fine by me, but I am not holding my breath waiting for them to be implemented.

More to the point, I wasn't planning to say anything more on this particular issue, which I would have thought was clear from what I actually wrote:

"Money talks, but there has always been an opportunity for clubs to break into the top four by good management. That is what we have done on a couple of occasions and what Everton nearly did last season.

However, we must be wary about trying to compete with clubs out of our financial league by offering unwise transfer fees and wages.

I will post about this separately."

Just to be clear: I was proposing to say something more about not getting dragged into an unwinnable price war and about the often-repeated assertion that Spurs could have cemented a place in the Champions League if only Levy had spent more money bringing in top players.

This is an argument I have often challenged in the past and I will do so again in the future.

DR THFC

I think you are saying the exact opposite of what Ed002 was saying.

He seemed to be saying I shouldn't post again because my concerns are all already being addressed by UEFA, while you seem to be saying that club owners should be able to do what they want with their own money (so long as it is legal), so the FFP rules are unnecessary and UEFA's interference is futile and undesirable.

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{Ed002's Note - There are a number of clubs who meet to discuss certain issues once or twice a year. They have for the past couple of years been discussing offering a figure to UEFA as a cap of allowable sponsorship for FFP. The impact of this on total sponsorship is zero, but the plan is to set it at a fair figure for the purposes of FFP which should go some way toward placating the clubs that do not attract such sponsorship. Although not involved with the rest of the discussions at the end of March, Manchester City were included in the talks about a sponsorship cap. A proposed figure was close to being agreed and I suspect will be at the next meeting at the end of August.}

Ed002:

Thanks for the clarification about sponsorship talks.

If caps are introduced, the key issue will be the level at which they are set.

PSG currently has commercial revenues of £204m, Bayern Munich of £177m, Man United of £153 and Man City of £143, while Barcelona and Real Madrid rub along on a paltry £140m or so.

To put that in perspective, we get £57m but Newcastle only gets £17, Aston Villa £16m and Everton just £6m.

Any cap agreed by the European giants will probably be irrelevant, even to the biggest Premiership clubs outside the top six.

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{Ed002's Note - The figures that were being discussed in March were between €100m and €120M.}

In other words:

The cap will be irrelevent, even to the biggest Premiership clubs outside the top 6.

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17 Jul 2014 00:23:42
It must be so easy to run a football club. For one reason only.
In business which football is now if you loose your best management, staff and devalue your product ( slip down the league) your clientele will go elsewhere.
Remember Woolworth, bhs, etc etc.

With football (spurs) there clientele are more then that we are supporters, loyal addiction, you don't change teams.

That is why he board dnt care there is over a 10 waiting list for season tickets the shop tills from Friday will go mad for the new kit.
We are the ones doing that not DL. Any other business he would be finished

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17 Jul 2014 00:15:28
I'm getting ready to be shot down BUT can someone tell me what good has DL done for our club.
Sold all our best players and replaced them with average.
Please dnt say he has put his hand in his pocket because he has not and the frowning tv money has made it easier for pl clubs. So what has he really done, this was the same name that wanted to change our who legacy and take us to the Olympic stadium. Please dnt tell me it was a plan to get whl consent. He though sell whl money in the bank and move nearer to bankers city.
The man wanted to move our home.

I really would love anyone to come in and takeover from him.
The amount of sites they have brought up in north London is unreal. Are we a football club or real estate.

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17 Jul 2014 10:32:55
I don't suppose you also go by the name of Pele10 on other sites do you?

I know a certain Coopsie that would disagree with you. Stneotsyid in da house :)

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You have totally lost me mate

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DL has done brilliant for our club, investing in a new stadium and always gives the manager money in the tsfr window. Yes he tries to buy low and sell high, only an person doesn't try and get the best value for their product/ players etc.

Also, wether the interest in moving to the Olympic stadium was true or expanding/building the new stadium shows that he has ambition as we need a bigger stadium! (Speculate to accumulate) And to do that the club needs land to build on and if you look at the plans for the area, they are heavily investing in the wider local community!

I trust in DL but not in Baldini!

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17 Jul 2014 23:46:32
Well said Foxspur, he's doing a great job. It's just a shame most are unwilling to accept that. Under Levy we have consistently been top six, better than when lord sugar owned us.

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