Spurs Banter Archive December 18 2013

 

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18 Dec 2013 23:43:01
Eds, can any of you briefly explain why ed002 said that signing Lamela was a massive mistake?

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{Ed008's Note - Ed002 won't give any info about it and he's not around atm, i would think it's to do with 1.He's not a player AVB wanted and 2.This is me guessing at 30m is a huge deal at his age and he was forced out at Roma because of the fee he was enjoying his football according to reports in Italy.

18 Dec 2013 23:22:47
The daily fail are claiming avb did not want the following players
Chadli Lamela vlad eriksen instead he wanted
Hulk moutinho Willian villa
If true why is this happening
It's like ordering soup at a restaurant and getting a fork to eat it with

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{Ed008's Note - This is what happens when you hire a director of football they are in charge of signings and most of the time ignore the managers wishes and settle for 2nd best it's a complicated relationship between manager and director.
Look at the signings for the 12/13 from AVB
Adebayor Miss
Dempsey Hit/Miss
Dembele Hit
Fryers Hit
Holtby Hit
Lloris Hit
Sigurdsson Hit
Vertonghen Hit

I think every Spurs fan knows Adebayor and Dempsey were Levy signings and i think i'm right with which players were hit and misses, why did Mr Levy then decide he wanted someone in charge of transfers? Lack of faith? Spurs only missed out on 1pt for Champions League.

I wouldn't say Siggurdson is a hit, or Fryers or Holtby although with Holtby i'm glad we got him he could be very good. I think Dembele has gone backwards.

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{Ed008's Note - Sigurdsson's been hit and miss i guess scored a lot of crucial goals last season, Fryers has the potential especially at the fee the same with Holtby in terms of price, Dembele was a hit last season with this season he's been hit and miss been played all over midfield to cover the injuries.

Chiriches and Eriksen are brilliant signings. Chadli doesn't offer anything.

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{Ed008's Note - Chiriches wasn't an AVB signing? I thought he was the way he spoke about him in the press, i always would think Soldado wasn't a signing AVB wanted he always expressed an interest in a target player.

Ed, I've read that it was AVB who asked for Baldini to come in. Apparently he asked for the same thing when at Chelsea. Not sure how true it is maybe someone else knows more but that's what I've heard.

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{Ed008's Note - Why would he ask for Baldini to come in though? Makes no sense when he had a successful 1st season and it never looked if they ever agreed on transfers. I'll ask Ed002 when he's around if it's true.

18 Dec 2013 22:34:49
I'm urging daniel levy to appoint glenn hoddle as our new manager now and at least for the rest of this season, I think hoddle as manager with tim sherwood & les ferdinand as part of his backroom team would be a good move for tottenham, hoddle is a very good coach and knows the club inside out which is exactly what we need at this moment in time, this is not the time to appoint another foreign coach, so act now mr levy before it's too late and we're left with no chance of making the top 4, gough4!

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18 Dec 2013 22:27:30
Poor Tim Sherwood being used as a ginni pig another one for levy to hide behind

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18 Dec 2013 21:47:44
Levy. U ****ed up. Swallow your pride and get Harry back now.

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MrG are you having a laugh.

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Nope I'm totally serious. We can't afford to play Russian roulette with our managers. Better the devil is say. Remember we was down on our knees and ended up qtr final of cl under Harry. What have we done since??

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Your in cuckoo land if you think Harry should come back. Yes I appreciate where he got us too and thank him for those memories.

He was / is tactically inept. Time to move on an give someone like F.D.B a chance and 'stick by them'

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Northeast Spur, harry has been called tactically inept but you can't deny we played the best football under him, regardless of tactics, and had the most success.
Harry had us playing great football fact. If he came back I wouldn't be crying myself, he got sacked for off field reasons nothing to do with football.
But yeah I reckon FDB could be good but regardless they are all a gamble, no one knows who will be good.
Personally though I don't think MR G is in cuckoo land at all, it won't happen sure, but we know Harry could do a good job for us, there isn't a manager that makes no mistakes, but we all loved how we played under him.

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18 Dec 2013 21:42:29
What a load of crap. West Ham are absolute rubbish and theystill beat us. Defoe is the most overated player I have ever seen he is pathetic. Time for Levy and Lewis to sell up and do one.

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Crafty. Well said but will never happen as he prob want £800 mill

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Been saying that for two seasons.

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Agree fully. I think he should have played soldado with Ade and stick with this pair until they blend together. It was always on the cards after the sacking that a result like this was on the cards but still very hard to take.

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18 Dec 2013 21:41:22
Levy is slowly destroying our club piece by piece. I dnt no what to say anymore except for. Every decision is made by him and every decision is wrong
Sold berba
Sold modders
Sold bale
Sacked Harry
Hire avb
Spunked 100mil
Feel free to join in. Levy lovers keep loving him.
The buck stop with him

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We need to use these cup games to get the team playing again, our main focus shoul e on te league and getting players to gel.

Still the stats tonight are ridiculous in our favor. Yet again. We need a finisher.

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Northern pleaseeeeeee. A shyT west ham team and 1 game away from the final and you want us to bed players in. Where was our 2x 30 mil players. Dnt forget Tim is on trial.

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Hard to disagree with any of your points MRG. He is an Accountant ( so am I) and accounts watch the clubs finances. Yes he wants to see the club do well but his first priority is to balance the books. To be fair to him almost every poster on this site expressed the opinion at the start of the season that we had made fantastic signings and the team would be better without Bale. It is a bit of hindsight now to blame him for everything that goes wrong. I feel that this will be a season of getting the team and new players to settle in. To get us playing like the Spurs of the past ie. Fast attacking and entertaining football. Forget about top four. More concerned that we do not drop below mid table.

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Pauli please tell me buddy as an accountant how much levy has spent on compensation to other clubs to get thee manager, give them a huge contract them sack them 2 year later with a bumper pay off. I'd guess 20-30 mil
His problem is his ego mate not his calculator

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Pauli balance the books my friend . Really? Sold bale 80m salary 80k a week buy 7 players spend 100m. I'm no accountant but I think there wages were more them bales weekly. I get your point mate to you and me yes but levy his ego

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You are probably right on that point Mr.G. The point I was trying to make was that an accountant will never turn down large fees for players. He will see the balance sheet effect and not the effect on the team.

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Yes Mr G, however the teams moral will be at rock bottom right now and we need to change that.

We need to bin JD & the assassin and bed in the future players like E.L & R.S.

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Mr G and Pauli,

I am not the biggest Levy lover, but you 2 are part of the reason why us Spurs fans are branded fickle.

For seasons now people (Especially Mrg on here) have been slating Levy for not spending cash, now he spent over £100m and you are still slating him.

Players who have been sold, have been sold because there is no point in keeping unhappy players as their value drops significately when playing badly or not playing at all.

Modric, Bale, Berbatov all wanted to leave for what they believed were bigger and better things. You cannot keep players when they are in this mind set. I agree to a certain degree that sacking Harry was wrong and hiring AVB was not ideal, but there was more to harry' sacking than what we all know.

Levy has turned our club around and we ARE one of the best run clubs in the PL and we have squad that can compete we need the right manager, will levy get it right this time who knows I hope so, but who ever comes in, there are 2 things for certain 1 is Levy will support them financially as he has done with all managers and 2 I will continue to support my beloved Spurs

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THFC, I have never been a levy lover but as you said, he backed us big time in the transfer window, even though most of it was Bale money! These players were all internationals, and good players . They don't lose it overnight, so something was wrong in the club, maybe they weren't AVBs choices but I think it was more his tactics! The only new buy I am not happy about is Paulinho, I think he slows down the game to much! With regards to Arry, yes we played good football but like Ade, he was only interested in feathering his own nest, a pair of judas's! As soon as he thought the England job was open, he was sniffing about without a thought for us, even though Levy had stood by him! Also, if Arry was still here, we would have Cole, Carrick, Ferguson etc, cluttering up our team . We have the squad, we need an attack loving manager! We don't need Arry, we don't need Ade, we don't need BEA, not good or loyal enough for our team!

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18 Dec 2013 21:40:18
I'm just happy I didn't shell out money for that

Something seriously wrong to be getting turned over by a terrible West Ham side at home twice

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18 Dec 2013 21:08:57
Adi scored.

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{Ed008's Note - Levy should give him a wage rise for that..

Lol ed. Your right he does deserve it he's been working hard the last 2 years lmao!

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I wish levy gives himself a pay off and **** off

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18 Dec 2013 20:43:57
Please no more Defoe. He is soo bad, always shoots straight to the keeper. Take Siggurdson off aswell he is pointless.

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18 Dec 2013 20:40:11
I hear what your all saying about adi. Let him earn his pay as I can't see him being with us long. Remember who gave le sulk that mega bumper contract

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He is a selfish money grabbing git, I would make him play with the youth team till the end of his contract, end of!

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No Davo, let's not tarnish our youth set up with that money grabbing Judas, let him have the rest of the season off as holiday on the condition he's nowhere near our team. Then we could pay a hitman. Well maybe that would be a little extreme but you get the point about how much I dislike this guy now.

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If you lot didn't realise, he was our best player tonight by far! We played well up till he came off and tried to defend our lead! That's always a risk! Take the positives into the next game and get behind them!

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What positives?

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18 Dec 2013 19:07:10
Why the f&@k is Ade playing? That guy shouldn't be allowed to where a spurs shirt again. He should've been sacked before AVB. What a joke, if I did that in my job I'd be on suspension right now. I'd rather we lost tonight than let that pr!ck play.

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{Ed008's Note - He's playing 442 though so he's listening to the "fans" not sure how you can play Dembele and Sigurddson in a 2 man midfield..

This is the carling cup. We have a squad that we have to rotate and use. Adi had got dropped by avb at the beginning of the season for no reason. That tweet apparently was tweeted before the game. This is a good game to give him and people a chance. Let's see what happens tonight

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{Ed008's Note - He was dropped because he refused to leave the club and because of that other striker targets couldn't be brought in he rather pick up his 100k wages a week then leave and earn less.

18 Dec 2013 19:34:44
Is he listening to the fans bringing ade bk in is a joke more like sucking up to levy and wot he wants is sherwood going to be Levys puppet and if Defoe is off why start him why not start Saldado and lamela up front they are players who are staying at club

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Now this is taking the piss! I couldn't care if Ade scores 10 goals tonight, no way should he be wearing the Spurs shirt again The Judas . Honestly thought that Sherwood would be his own man, but looks like Levy is pulling the strings already! And how the hell are we going to manage in the midfield with just Dembele and Siggy?

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Ps . Is Lamela injured or is £30 million pounds sitting in the stands for a reason!

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{Ed008's Note - He's unsettled at the club and wants to go out on loan all Baldini's fault imo

Ed, is it true that Sherwood is thinking of recalling the other Judas back from QPR as well?

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{Ed008's Note - I don't think he can be recalled due to his loan agreement i highly doubt it.

Mr g there is no way that pic was done before the game, it said "what a game lol" and they just coincidently had 5 fingers up. Pull the other one mate. I think your right Davo, levy can't do the job himself because he wouldn't want to sack himself in 2 years time so he's got himself a puppet. Like I said in a previous post, AVB was asked to leave because he wouldn't play Ade, tonight is proof enough for me. Funny thing guys, I'm supposed to be the positive 1.

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